GOCRA forces state emploment office to follow the law

Illegal workforce center gun ban sign

When GOCRA worked with out legislative allies to pass the Minnesota Citizens Personal Protection Act in 2003, we made sure that state and local government agencies wouldn’t be able to set their own rules around carry.

But sometimes, petty bureaucrats start thinking they’re above the law.

When that happens, we send them a friendly reminder of who exactly works for whom:

Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:32 PM


It has come to our attention that the Ramsey County St. Paul WorkForce Center, at 540 Fairview Avenue North in St. Paul, has these sign posted:

Minnesota Statute 624.714, Subd. 23 prohibits any unit of government from restricting carry, beyond the limits established by the Legislature:

Subd. 23.Exclusivity.

This section sets forth the complete and exclusive criteria and procedures for the issuance of permits to carry and establishes their nature and scope. No sheriff, police chief, governmental unit, government official, government employee, or other person or body acting under color of law or governmental authority may change, modify, or supplement these criteria or procedures, or limit the exercise of a permit to carry.

We ask for your immediate confirmation that this illegal sign has been removed, and that other offices will be reminded of this limit on their authority to regulate the legal carry of firearms.


Andrew Rothman President Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance

It took a second email, but we eventually got this response:

From: Clark Sieben, Katie (DEED)

Feb 1, 2016


Thank you for your email. This sign was removed.

My best regards, Katie Clark Sieben

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2 comments to GOCRA forces state emploment office to follow the law

  • Max

    Great you held them accountable for this, but I don’t think this was much of an issue anyway because the signs don’t comply with gun prohibition sing laws.
    MN “gun ban signs” must be 187 square inches in area, and the background of the sign must be “bright.” Their’s was transparent. Even the lettering must be a specific font and size (black Arial typeface at least 1.5 inches in height), and must contrast with the background of the sign. Additionally, the sign must indicate the identity of the operator of the private establishment and state that the operator “BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.” For example: “ACME ANVILS, INC., BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES.” These signs were non-effective and held no legal purpose.

  • admin

    Those are the requirements for private businesses to post. Government entities aren’t allowed to post at all, so the form of the sign isn’t actually relevant.

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